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7:45 pm
December 8, 2009


tan

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I just read the Taylor Lautner article, and found it to be really inspiring.  Thanks Darrin. 

I was particularly interested in the amount of cardio he (didn't!) put in. Well i've got a gut to lose.  About 1.5 years ago i started a 5 x 5 program and got good results.  As i progressed i started doing wieghts one day followed by upto 30 mins cardio the next day, using a Versa Climber.  Now in all honesty i really did feel better, and that was the time that i got the most positive comments from family and friends.  The i began reading up and was told by another forum that i was overdoing it for a beginner, and not allowing my muscles to rest and recuperate enough.  So i dropped the cardio and tried to fit it in after my workout.  But i found i couldn't do 30 mins because i was too tired.  Since that time my training has been fairly periodic, and i would still describe myself as a beginner. 

After reading all through this (thanks!) i want to ask what do you think?  Was i overdoing it, or should i return to the routine now, that i'm ready to start training again.  Thanks in advance for your time.

8:23 am
December 9, 2009


Darrin

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posts 310

I'm really interested in what other people think but here's a quick reply…  Beginners actually need less recovery time than more experienced lifters.  For example, Tom Venuto (one of my "heros") does each muscle group once a week.  Ditto Skip LaCour and lots of other people who have been lifting for 10 or more years.  See http://worldfitnessnetwork.com…..t-version/ (and LeanLifters can see the even longer version).  Since you've been lifting on and off for a year and a half, but have recently been more "off" than "on", I'd recommend a 3-day a week full body lifting plan.  Are you fat or just flabby?  That will determine how much cardio to do.  But if you are too tired to do cardio after lifting, that's a good sign that you are lifting intensely (or else that you need to toughen up!).  Assuming intensity, then you can probably be fine with cardio just twice a week, picking two of your off days.  Somethign like this as a 7 day (assuming full-body lifts): lift, recover, lift, cardio, lift, recover, cardio – then repeat. 

6:51 am
December 10, 2009


gene

Thailand

Member

posts 24

Tan, You are really working hard, and that is going to pay big dividends.  It's very motivating to read stories like yours. Keep up the good work! 

Cardio is one of my least favorite expenditures of time and effort.  But, it WORKS for me, and that makes it tolerable (if not fun).  Don't let the "no cardio" crowd beat you down.

If you don't already have Tom Venuto's Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle eBook, you can click on the blogroll and take a look.  He has invaluable information and advice in there.

The short version is this:  You will want to adjust the amount of cardio you do according to the results you are getting.  But, by all means, keep it up and good luck!

5:48 am
December 15, 2009


tan

Member

posts 3

Hi Darrin & Gene,

thanks for your responses.  I lift as heavy as i can with correct form as much as possible.  However i like the fact that cardio has a part to play in this, and i think that 2 days as outlined above would be about right at this stage. 

Once again thanks for your time.

tan

2:54 pm
December 30, 2009


truparad0x

Mass

Member

posts 25

Another thing to think about is why you are doing the cardio.  If it is strictly for fat burn, then 10 – 20 minutes of HIIT cardio would work for you.  I agree with Darrin on the twice a week thing.  If you are doing cardio for races, then that a totally different beast.

And maybe I'm silly for this, but I still believe that too much cardio will impair your ability to grow mass.  Not saying it's impossible, but cardio wears you down.  I know from experience.  I am biggest when I do cardio once a week.  But when I do it 2-3 times a week, my body gets "stuck" in terms of gain.  I do perform cardio because I have some racing goals, so I aim for 5K runs each session.

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