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Trap Bar Deadlifts

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9:42 pm
January 30, 2012


Dwane

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I am currently in my 6x6x6 routine at my gym that does not have a trap Bar. I am using dumbbells at my sides and I am lifting with the dead lift technique.

I am using 100 pound dumbbells in each hand. This weight is very simple and does not give me any significant resistance in the actual dead lift. The problem is that I lose my grip on the dumbbells. Since I begin losing my grip around the 6th rep for each set, I am not getting any benefit to this excercise.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

USPS 

12:59 am
January 31, 2012


Cameron

Greensboro, NC

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posts 250

Use a barbell, it's less ideal than a trap bar, but it can (and usually is) be done.

6:58 am
January 31, 2012


Darrin

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posts 310

Cameron – just for clarity sake, are you suggesting he simply do regular deadlifts on this day (the 6x6x6 routine normally has regular deads one day and trap bar deads another day).  I often tell people who don't have a trap bar to just do some other deadlift variation:  snatch grip deads, sumo deads, speed pulls from a deficit, etc.

Or… are you suggesting he load up two barbells, place them parallel, and lift those like dumbbells (holding each barbell to the side)?  I've seen that done, but that takes incredible grip and forearm strength to balance them, which lowers the poundage a person can lift.

Either way USPS – you should a) stop doing the dumbbell deads in that part of the routine and b) you should do some accessory work on your grip.  You shouldn't be failing grip.  Do you fail grip on regular deads before you fail elsewhere (usually, with regular deads, the fail point is lower back starting to round)?

5:38 pm
February 1, 2012


Grant

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posts 11

USPS,

How long have you been on 6x6x6?

I had this problem early on in the workout and persisted with weights that I could manage the grip on. After a few weeks, my grip strength caught up with everything else and I'm now up to 112kg DL, where grip used to fail at 70kg. It only took about 4 weeks to catch up from memory. I still remember the forearm pain in the days following….

I am lucky enough to have a multi-gym passport and only one of my favourite gyms has the trap bar. I don't think you will suffer much for not using it.

Kind Regards,

Grant.

9:33 pm
February 3, 2012


Dwane

Member

posts 7

Grant said:

USPS,

How long have you been on 6x6x6?

I had this problem early on in the workout and persisted with weights that I could manage the grip on. After a few weeks, my grip strength caught up with everything else and I'm now up to 112kg DL, where grip used to fail at 70kg. It only took about 4 weeks to catch up from memory. I still remember the forearm pain in the days following….

I am lucky enough to have a multi-gym passport and only one of my favourite gyms has the trap bar. I don't think you will suffer much for not using it.

Kind Regards,

Grant.

Darrin, I have no problems with conventional deadlifts. I am at 270 pounds and use lifting straps. I have been performing conventional deadlifts since May 2010 as part of Full Body attack. Since I began 6x6x6 in January I have been frustrated with the dumbbells at my sides. I guess I should use lighter dumbbells and go to failure until my grip holds. Thank you everybody for your input.

7:09 am
February 4, 2012


Darrin

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posts 310

I'd actually recommend skipping the dumbbell deads.  Do some accessory work for deads, like sumo deads, or really heavy rack pulls.  Also, since your grip probably could do with some improvement, do some work there.  Doing deads with straps might help you lift heavier, but it also allows your grip to stay weak.  Maybe only use straps on the heaviest sets and let your natural grip work better. 

As a side note – not just to you – I've stop using alternating grip on regular deads.  The imbalance caused by the mixed grip torques by back and supinated shoulder (it's small, but noticeable).  Plus, more risk of bicep tear.  So, I use chalk which helps a lot.  Also now experimenting with hook grip.

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