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9:03 pm
December 15, 2010


Cameron

Greensboro, NC

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posts 250

I'm trying to think of a few ways to make a few extra bucks before I get my promotion to fitness manager for work.

Here are my thoughts.  I need some decent ideas for some help. (some of my better ones…)

-a book

-an e-book

-workouts, maybe a supplementary 1 a day workout to combine with one of Darrin's programs for "trouble areas" or maybe even their own workout

- a power/explosion workout (Darrin hasn't covered one of these and I feel it's beneficial for a lot of people)

 

Anyways, If you wouldn't mind giving me suggestions on getting started or ideas for things, or even the best way to market it it would be awesome.  Maybe you want to do a partner workout or e-book or something too Darrin???LaughLaughLaugh

 

Like I said, just throwing some ideas out…

5:00 pm
December 16, 2010


Darrin

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posts 310

Great topic! I will definitely respond but I am slammed with work right now.  More soon…

5:37 pm
December 16, 2010


Cameron

Greensboro, NC

Member

posts 250

That was brief…  Also, I do think it's time for a new poll isn't it?

11:53 pm
December 17, 2010


Cameron

Greensboro, NC

Member

posts 250

Oh, forgot the other idea I had.  I've been thinking for some time about writing a series of books for sports performance.  Each book divided into segments (maybe even co-written, depending on the sport and experience needed for each book).  Something like the first segment is overall fitness and nutrition (this would be pretty much the same in every book hopefully); segment two covering the workouts/ training regimen of a particular sport/activity; and segment three going into the performance nutrition of that activity.  Obviously, a football player won't workout the same way a soccer player or golfer would so most people would see the value of the second section.  The third segment would be the hardest part to sell, obviously people don'tl like changing their diets; it also seems like they would all be the same in each book, however, all activities are not equal.  A marathon runner will have a different diet than a golfer.  Carb heavy, and low sodium whereas the golfer needs low sodium/salt to prevent dehydration but less carbs.  And a tennis player is completely different as well…

 

What do you think of this idea?  It's been bouncing around in my head seriously for about 8 or 9 months. (Took a while for me to warm up to the idea.)

4:43 pm
December 18, 2010


Darrin

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well, this is a great topic and perhaps one we can take up offline, but I'll share some initial thoughts in case others are thinking about the same thing.

first off, this is a very tough business to make money in.  personal training has become almost a minimum wage job, mostly because most gyms hire people who don't know what they are doing but know how to count, and are willing to do so for pennies.  then when you have people who do know what they are doing (like Cameron), you can't earn more than $30k or so. 

so then people think about opening their own gym, but the skills to be a good trainer are often quite different than the skills to succeed in business.  look up things by allwyn cosgrove if you want an example of someone who is a master at both. 

knowing how hard that is, a lot of people look to the internet for revenue opportunities.  there again, very hard.  I have a very successful non-fitness business, so I'd like to think I have some strong business skills, but I have to be honest – making money from worldfitnessnetwork.com is tough.  I've got 12,000 subscribers now – so I know how to get members, but getting people to buy things is difficult.  I'm always playing around with concepts and ideas and models to see what works best.  and it changes over time.  what worked best 2 yrs ago doesn't work so well anymore.

ebooks is a pretty easy way to get started – but even if you have the best strength training ebook ever written in the history of the world, you need a market.  you need buyers, you need promotion.  and in the past 2 yrs, it seems like everybody has ebooks for sale.  most are junk, but many are really good.  so you've got a lot of competition.

most internet marketing experts today are saying that the best way to make money is with subscriptions, rather than one-off sales.  but again, you need an audience.

my advice to anyone who wants to make money online in the fitness world right now are the following (in no particular order):

- start writing a blog regularly, learn how to get traffic, and start building some subscribers; you need to offer good content for free before people will pay you

- write a really, really good ebook and ask other people to promote it for you; they will want anywhere from 25% to 75% of the revenue, depending on the quality of their subscriber list; also check out clickbank.com which lets you attract "resellers" of your ebook; but your ebook has got to be really, really good to get any traction there

- consider online coaching/training; some trainers have found that they can train more people and can do so very effectively online; I think it only works with very motivated trainees though; but clients might be more willing to pay $100 a month for a weekly 30 minute call, plus some programs from you via email, plus Q&A via email; compared to $70/hr for one-on-one training at your facility

- forget the allure of online, quick money and just be the best trainer you can possibly be and become so valuable to your boss that they keep giving you raises (and you need to ask for raises); in my other business, employees who keep adding value beyond what they were hired to do end up getting paid more and more.  it works that way in just about every (good) business.

9:19 am
December 20, 2010


Cameron

Greensboro, NC

Member

posts 250

Yea, that's basicallly why I was asking you for some advice.  I'm checked out the goal triangle before so I know you have some good experience.  I can't decide if anything I do is going to be either for making money now (not likely, but plausible) in the futre (more likely), or maybe both.  If I was an employer I would love to have someone walk in to my office for an interview when I finally finish my degree (I'm on the 30  year plan for a 4-year degree) and say "I was a manager by the age of 22 and have written a book or two."  I already feel that the articles for this site are at least worth mentioning.  It was more for some ideas than anything. I haven't made up my mind what I'm going to do yet though.

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