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11:27 pm
April 18, 2011


Cameron

Greensboro, NC

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What are your views on a good number for each of the big 7 lifts as far as max weight (1RM)to lift?  Obviously, this is going to bring up questions on how the person is built, experience they have, lifting level, etc.  

For example, I personally have long legs and arms so my bench weight will suffer.  This however helps me in cleans and other power (speed) movements because of the laws of leverage and physics.  And so I'll specify for you for arguments sake, hell, I'll even say he is my size, but more proportionatly built for lifting (average arm length, leg length, etc…. the perfect mesomorph):

5'10 1/2", 177 lbs., 11% bodyfat, mesomorphic body type, and 7 years of lifting experience first-hand:

I was just curious because I was thinking about my weight in the Big 7 and was wondering how it ranked… out of curiosity.  Either throw down ideas of what your numbers are, rounding is fine if you need to, or post some expected percentages… or both.   Anyways, I think this will be interesting, so have at it…

 

And for those of you who need a reminder, the big 7 are: (with my approximate personal statistics)

Deadlift: Haven't done it in years, but based on my squat, probably around 350ish for  1 rep.  Approx. 200% bodyweight

Squat: Approx. 450lbs. (approx 250% bodyweight)

Chest Press: (In this case bench, don't know a lb.age) Probably about 150% bodyweight

Rows: A little above bodyweight, probably about 125% for 1 rep… then again, it depends on the type of row as well, I tend to do a lot of uprights vs. yates, so it helps my weight here some.

Chin-up/pull-up:  This one is a bit hard to put a number on relative to the rest due to the fact it's a body weight exercise…. My sets run about 10 reps each, but the long arms destroy me here…. Frown

Military Press:  I have a feeling I'm higher than most here, but it's about 75% bodyweight for me, so about 150 lbs. probably for my 1RM

Dips:  kind of hard on this one too, but I can say that on a seated triceps pushdown machine i'll do about 250lbs. for 6-8 reps, so i'll do with about 175% bodyweight (or about 135lb. added for dips) on these, or about 280ish lbs… but then again, it's a ballpark… don't know if I've ever even had the chance to 1RM this exercise…

 

Any thoughts?

8:27 pm
April 20, 2011


Darrin

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posts 310

Well, I've got a few thoughts. One is that it is very hard to estimate 1RM. I know there are formulas (the best I've seen is what Jim Wendler uses in his 5/3/1 program; but I don't think he invented it — wt. x reps x .0333 + wt.= 1RM).

In the end though, I think you really need to attempt the 1RM because your true 1RM will be impacted by many things beyond just "strength", namely

- your mental prep and attitude (if you don't think you can do x, you are less likely to do x)

- do you maintain good form or not?

- etc.

1RM is also heavily impacted by your lifting style – for example, have you been training squats like a powerlifting (firing out of the hole) or have you been training more like a bodybuilder (slower, controlled reps).  Similarly, deads can be more back/less legs or more legs/less back depending on your style.

In the end, discussions like this go all over the place.

That said, I do think there are some reasonable targets for being "very strong", assuming good form is maintained:

Squats:  once you can do 200% BW, you are "very strong".

Deads:  250%

Bench: 175%

Military:  100%

Others – no idea

I'm guessing that 90% of us fall short of "very strong" in at least one of these (I fail on two).  And I'm sure lots of people would draw the lines differently.

10:03 pm
April 20, 2011


Cameron

Greensboro, NC

Member

posts 250

I lose it on a few as well ;)

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